tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post5379459663373938985..comments2024-01-04T07:33:10.137-05:00Comments on Seldom Wrong, Never in Doubt: Haggard Commits StereotypeJon A. Alfred E. Michael J. Wile E. SWNIDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04595651777890086293noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-76093419701794712892010-07-27T22:50:57.179-04:002010-07-27T22:50:57.179-04:00Anon, we take that as a sincere question deserving...Anon, we take that as a sincere question deserving a reasonable answer.<br /><br />The text you mention is no exhortation to indifference about a preacher's integrity but a part of Paul's larger discussion of his outlook toward his present circumstances as a model of Christlike humility for the Philippians. The entire message of Philippians is tied to Paul's statement that the gospel matters most and that the gospel teaches us to regard others are more important than ourselves.<br /><br />So, Paul says, my imprisonment is no tragedy for me because through it the gospel is being preached--as I preach to the guards and as others preach, even if they do so for bad motives.<br /><br />As you read the entirety of Philippians, you'll find that the message of 2:1-4, based on the "little gospel" of 2:5-11, is really developed throughout the entire letter, without exception.<br /><br />Turning to the Pastoral Letters or 2 Peter and Jude, one sees a very important counter point to Paul's statement in Phil 1:17-18. The NT is not sanguine about hypocrisy or tepid about the faithfulness of leaders.Jon A. Alfred E. Michael J. Wile E. SWNIDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04595651777890086293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-39599527730879537852010-07-27T13:13:07.656-04:002010-07-27T13:13:07.656-04:00How should we understand Philippians 1:17-18 in th...How should we understand Philippians 1:17-18 in this scenario?<br /><br /><br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-41112221928671720032010-07-27T12:17:48.911-04:002010-07-27T12:17:48.911-04:00Anon, there are ways to express the lifelong repen...Anon, there are ways to express the lifelong repentance that we style "recovery," and there are ways not to express it. A recovering alcoholic doesn't need to prove he's in recovery by working as a bartender.<br /><br />There's ministry that doesn't involve television, indeed that doesn't involve an "audience" in the normal sense. In fact, there's more of that kind of ministry than the other kind, and more of it that needs to be done.<br /><br />@Marty, Haggard's "misunderstanding" assertion is tied for most ridiculous statement ever made.Jon A. Alfred E. Michael J. Wile E. SWNIDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04595651777890086293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-4853055820019275582010-07-26T22:57:26.244-04:002010-07-26T22:57:26.244-04:00I've never met a man yet caught in a same sex ...I've never met a man yet caught in a same sex "misunderstanding." Anyone who "misunderstood" what was going on with Mr. Haggard is deep in denial.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08932232196097253125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-82714312860317312982010-07-26T22:45:01.350-04:002010-07-26T22:45:01.350-04:00JB, you might check out Jim Bakker a little more c...JB, you might check out Jim Bakker a little more closely. He is not the same Jim Bakker he was before. Just because "Ministry attracts people with narcissistic personality disorders" that doesn't mean that they are exempt from ministry forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-43116382406132144062010-07-26T13:43:27.315-04:002010-07-26T13:43:27.315-04:00There is a reason Paul said what he did in 1 Cor 1...There is a reason Paul said what he did in 1 Cor 1.18-2.1-5.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-54849257097827535902010-07-24T15:03:13.865-04:002010-07-24T15:03:13.865-04:00Ministry attracts people with narcissistic persona...<i>Ministry attracts people with narcissistic personality disorders.</i><br /><br />I long for the day when this phrase adorns the doorway to the Worship/Ministry building on campus. <br /><br />Or, I suppose, we could settle for writing it on a piece of cardboard, taping it under the nameplate by my office.steve-ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06430703397034156130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-67112693374581754762010-07-24T13:29:42.323-04:002010-07-24T13:29:42.323-04:00Why does he continually seek to down play the sign...Why does he continually seek to down play the significance, extent and depth of his sin? I would actually respect Ted Haggard if he admitted the depth of his sin and repented, as we Christians are commanded to do. Instead I loathe him for the same reasons SWNID warns.<br /><br />Syllogistic note:<br />All true pastors are worthy of respect but being respected does not make you worthy of being a pastor.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15566625245456722338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15405788.post-37291634516536807022010-07-24T13:29:15.074-04:002010-07-24T13:29:15.074-04:00Seems I saw Jim Bakker doing his thing recently as...Seems I saw Jim Bakker doing his thing recently as I flipped through the channels. I suppose it's some comfort that he's now in Missouri, rather than South Carolina.JB in CAnoreply@blogger.com